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SYNNEX (SNX) Q1 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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SYNNEX (NYSE: SNX)
Q1 2022 Earnings Call
Jun 28, 2022, 8:00 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:


Operator

Good morning. My name is Rob, and I'll be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the TD SYNNEX second quarter fiscal 2022 earnings call. [Operator instructions] At this time, for opening remarks, I would like to pass the call over to Liz Morali, head of investor relations.

Liz, you may begin.

Liz Morali -- Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, and good morning to everyone. Thank you for joining us for today's call. With me today are Rich Hume, CEO; and Marshall Witt, CFO. Before we continue, let me remind everyone that today's discussion contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including predictions, estimates, projections, or other statements about future events, including statements about integration, progress, synergies, strategy, capital distribution, investments, and our expectations for fiscal year 2022.

Actual results may differ materially from those mentioned in these forward-looking statements as a result of risks and uncertainties discussed in today's earnings release, in the Form 8-K we filed today, and in the risk factors section of our Form 10-K, and our other reports and filings with the SEC. We do not intend to update any forward-looking statements. Also, during this call, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial information. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP results are included in our earnings press release and the related Form 8-K available on our investor relations website, ir.synnex.com.

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This conference call is the property of TD SYNNEX and may not be recorded or rebroadcast without our permission. I will now turn the call over to Rich. Rich?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Liz. And good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. Nearly 10 months ago, we closed the merger to form TD SYNNEX. Through our first three fiscal quarters together, we have successfully generated over $46 billion in revenue and $8.61 in non-GAAP earnings per share, all while making great strides on our merger integration.

I'm incredibly proud of our more than 22,000 coworkers and their tremendous efforts to accomplish these very impressive results. In March, at our investor day, we were able to share with you our vision of the evolving IT distribution landscape and the opportunities to grow and deliver enhanced financial performance over the coming years. We presented our four pillar strategic framework, along with key, medium, and long-term financial objectives, focused on investing in high-growth technologies, like hybrid cloud, security, data analytics, and hyperscale infrastructure, while strengthening our portfolio, expanding our global footprint, and digitally transforming our business. This strategy is underpinned by our role in the center of the technology partner ecosystem as a leading solutions aggregator.

From this vantage point and with the strong support of our best-in-class network of over 1,500 vendor partners, we are well-positioned to continue delivering unrivaled technology solutions to our more than 150,000 customers. Our performance in fiscal Q2 further demonstrates the success we are having in the market, given our strong value proposition and industry-leading portfolio. In Q2, we grew revenue by 4% year over year, assuming the merger occurred in the prior year, if adjusted for FX and revenue policy alignment. This strong result was driven by robust demand for technology products and solutions to enable hybrid work, foster collaboration, enhance security, and advance multi-cloud adoption.

This is an exciting time to serve the technology ecosystem as the pace of change intensifies, and our vendors continue developing products and services that enable companies and individuals to improve their agility, productivity, security, and profitability. We continue to see healthy demand for both end point and advanced solutions, with revenue increasing year over year. In PC, the double-digit growth rate seen during the pandemic continued to moderate as expected. The supply constrained environment that we've spoken about the past several quarters continued and was in line with our expectations.

From a regional perspective, our Americas distribution business experienced strong year-over-year top-line growth. On a year-over-year basis, our hyperscale infrastructure business declined, given tough prior year compares, but grew on an LTM basis, consistent with our expectations. Our European business also grew year over year in constant currency, albeit at a more measured pace, given the current economic and geopolitical conditions in the region. Before I pass it over to Marshall, to further elaborate on our Q2 results, I wanted to provide an update on our merger integration activities.

We continue to make excellent progress on harmonizing processes, benefits, and systems across TD SYNNEX, as well as our optimization programs and synergy attainment. From an ERP systems perspective, I shared with you last quarter that the April-May timeframe would be important as we migrated a large portion of our Canadian business to the new system. I'm happy to report that the migration went extremely well, and we are on track with our project plans to transition our U.S. business.

As we enter the back half of this fiscal year, we are extremely pleased with the progress we've made and the momentum we are experiencing in the market. I will now pass it over to Marshall, who will provide some further color on our Q2 financial performance. Marshall.

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Rich. And thanks for joining us today for our call. In fiscal Q2, we delivered another strong performance with year-over-year revenue growth on a constant currency basis, gross margin expansion, healthy earnings per share, and strong cash flow from operations. This consistency in performance is a testament to the dedicated efforts of our global team and our agile, entrepreneurial, and resilient business model.

Total worldwide revenue for fiscal Q2 was 15.3 billion, up 4% when adjusted for constant currency and the revenue policy alignments related to the merger. This is a stronger result than the 3% year-over-year adjusted growth rate at the midpoint of the Q2 outlook we've provided last quarter. The growth was driven by strong performance in both core and high-growth portions of the business. Euro devaluation accounted for approximately 500 million of headwind versus the prior year and an approximate 200 million incremental headwind versus our prior guidance.

Our distribution business experienced growth across all regions, excluding the impact of one large government project in APJ in the prior year. Gross profit was 956 million, and gross margin was 6.3% compared to 5.8% for the prior year, reflecting a favorable product market, a strong pricing environment, and solid execution. FX had a 31 million negative impact on gross profit compared to the prior year, primarily due to the devaluation of the euro relative to the U.S. dollar.

Total adjusted SG&A expense was 585 million, representing 3.8% of revenue and in line with our expectations. Non-GAAP operating income was 398 million, up 18% versus the prior year. And non-GAAP operating margin was 2.6%, up from 2.2% in the prior-year period. All three regions experienced improved profitability compared to the prior year.

FX had a 10 million negative impact on non-GAAP operating income compared to the prior year, primarily due to the euro devaluation versus the U.S. dollar. Non-GAAP interest expense and finance charges were 46 million, and non-GAAP effective tax rate was approximately 24%. Total non-GAAP net income was 262 million, and non-GAAP diluted EPS was $2.72.

Now, turning to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with cash and cash equivalents of 522 million and debt of 4.1 billion. Our gross leverage ratio was 2.4 times and net leverage was 2.1 times. Accounts receivable totaled 7.9 billion and inventories totaled 8.4 billion.

Our net working capital at the end of the second quarter was 3.6 billion, a decrease of 800 million from 4.4 billion in Q1. Our cash conversion cycle for the second quarter was 21 days, down three days from Q1 of 22. Cash from operations was approximately 1.04 billion in the quarter. This is partially due to some unwinding of the Q1 increase in the net working capital to support revenue growth and strategic inventory purchases.

From a shareholder return perspective, for the current quarter, our board of directors has approved a cash dividend of $0.30 per common share. The dividend is expected to be paid on July 29, 2022 to stockholders of record as of the close of business on July 15, 2022. We also continue to repurchase shares. And through the first two quarters of fiscal '22, we have repurchased approximately 53 million of our stock at a weighted average price of approximately $103, in line with our target of 100 million share repurchases for the year.

We have 347 million remaining on our three-year stock repurchase authorization, which expires in July of 2023. Before I discuss our outlook for the third quarter, I wanted to take a moment to provide an update on our merger synergies. As Rich mentioned, our integration efforts are going well, and we continued to make good progress on realizing our merger cost synergies. We are ahead of schedule and remain committed to achieving our targeted 200 million in merger cost synergies.

As I've mentioned previously, these opportunities span a variety of areas, including optimization and efficiency, data legacy, Tech Data GBO program, as well as traditional deal-related synergies across the spectrum of IT systems, corporate cost, facilities rationalization, taxes, and interest. Now, moving to our outlook for fiscal quarter 3. We expect total revenue to be in the range of 14.5 billion to 15.5 billion, which, when adjusted for currency impact of approximately 500 million and revenue policy alignment relating to the merger of approximately 300 million, equates to a growth of around 10% at the midpoint on a year-over-year basis, assuming the merger had occurred in the prior year. Non-GAAP net income is expected to be in the range of 241 million to 279 million, and non-GAAP diluted EPS is expected to be in the range of $2.50 to $2.90 per diluted share.

That's based on a weighted average shares outstanding of approximately 95.5 million. Interest expense is expected to be approximately 45 million, and we expect the tax rate to be approximately 24%. For the full fiscal year 22, we continue to expect non-GAAP diluted EPS of $11.15 to $11.65 per diluted share. We are reaffirming this full year outlook despite an incremental $0.14 headwind from the devaluation of the euro since March.

The total FX headwind for fiscal '22 versus the prior year is now approximately $0.32. We will now take your questions. Operator?

Questions & Answers:


Operator

[Operator instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Matt Sheerin from Stifel. Your line is open.

Matt Sheerin -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

Yes. Thank you very much. And good morning, everyone. My first question, Rich, just regarding your commentary on the overall demand environment.

You still sound fairly bullish. But could you give us a little bit more color on the PC "moderation" that you're seeing? Are you continuing to see that weaken? And it also sounds like supply is starting to open up there. And then relative to the comments you've made in previous quarters about expectation for on-prem infrastructure projects coming back and accelerating in the second half, are you still seeing that and hearing that from your customers?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Matt, thank you for your question. So, first, when we look back at 2Q, on a constant currency basis, we talk about the advanced solutions and endpoint segment, and we talked about, you know, growth in both of those segments. In addition to that, I think we had a separate schedule for everybody to have a look at PCs and, you know, how they fit within our portfolio and profile. And to kind of move on to your second point, what I would say is, the story remains consistent.

And the PC realm as what we had articulated previously, at least from our crystal ball. And that is that, you know, the commercial PCs have some pretty good demand associated with them. The weakness, I think, in the overall scheme of the PC category would be in the Chromebook, as well as the consumer piece, at least for the foreseeable future. And as you would have noticed from that schedule that we had incorporated in there, you know, we're heavier weight to the commercial piece.

And, you know, when you get down to the consumer segment and think about it in the grand scheme of our entire portfolio, it's a single-digit number, a mid-single-digit number estimated. So, you know, I think that the sentiment of the market, you know, the PC providers have sort of articulated that point of view. And we would reaffirm that that's the way we see it. As it relates to advanced solutions, certainly, the growth rates there have been higher than the endpoint segment.

And we do, you know, continue to see good demand in that segment. And I do believe, as we had talked for a while since the beginning of the year, that through the pandemic, you had, you know, PCs launching with high demand, the advanced solutions sort of deferring. And now you're coming around to the moderation of PC and, you know, pretty good demand strength, if you will, within the advanced solutions segment. So, that's how we see it.

Matt Sheerin -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

OK. Thanks so much for that. And then as my follow-up, just regarding the inventory build that you had again in the quarter, up about 700 million sequentially. But you're guiding essentially, well, down slightly sequentially for the August quarter.

Could you just explain that? And is any of that related to your hyperscale business where you typically stage inventory or products ahead of any ramps?

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Matt, this is Marshall, and thanks for the question. It's an equal balance between distribution and Hyve. But, yes, it's the same demand forecast that we build up. You saw and we experienced in Q2 some of the higher margins and solid returns of some of that buildup at the end of Q1 for Hyve.

We expect that same thing for the second half.

Matt Sheerin -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

OK. Great. Thanks a lot.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

And then, the one comment that I would make is as we look at quarter, quarter, quarter, the supply chains continue to be volatile. We usually accomplish what we need to in the quarter. So, we'll see ebbs and flows in working capital, I think, for the tactical frame. And then we're pretty comfortable with what we articulated in our investor day financial model for working capital once we move to sort of stabler grounds, if you will.

But we do see these bumps in the road here and there that, you know, are typically a bit unusual if we were to be in a stable environment.

Matt Sheerin -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

Got it. OK. Thanks a lot.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Matt. Have a good day.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ruplu Bhattacharya from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Ruplu Bhattacharya -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. It looks like FX is an incremental 850 million to 900 million negative impact on the top line and about $0.14 on the EPS.

So, can you give us, you know, your thoughts on that? And what is giving you confidence to keep the EPS guide for fiscal '22 unchanged? And what drives the operating margin improvement in fiscal 4Q?

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Good question, Ruplu. Thank you. This is Marshall. So, yeah, we feel really confident.

Clearly, the $0.14 is a headwind. As we think about our investor day profile and looking at what we thought overall adjusted net revenues would be, we gave a guidance of 6% to 8%. We still feel good about that. And then we also gave an operating margin profile range of 2.5% to 2.7%.

Same thing there, we feel really good about that. So, the execution of the business, our belief that the second half of the year will still have, we'll call it decent-to-good IT spend growth that we're going to benefit from. The synergies that we spoke to that are also in the investor presentation give us that confidence that we can offset those FX headwinds.

Ruplu Bhattacharya -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

OK. Thanks for that. Could you talk about the pricing environment? Are you seeing vendors continue to raise prices? And can you also talk about wage inflation and impact to your margins from that?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So first, in the pricing environment, certainly, you know, over the last year, year and a half, there has been consistent price changes basically across the board, you know, based on all of the factors that we're familiar with, right? And I would speculate that we're going to continue to see those price changes as we move forward until sort of the inflationary impact sort of calm down. And, you know, I think that they'll ultimately start to abate. But, you know, for the tactical frame, I would suggest that that will continue.

As it relates to labor and how it impacts, you know, our business, so first of all, labor inflation is part of the overall inflation that gets sort of translated into price across the entire supply chain. We carefully manage, you know, our compensation to make sure that we maintain competitive within the -- competitiveness within the market. At the same time, you know, we'll pass through those increments. I would consider them sort of marginal, if you will, incremental impacts to our overall pricing to end users.

But they are there, and we move reasonably quickly to make sure we get them passed through.

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

And, Ruplu, just to remind you, our merit cycle is -- falls into Q2. So, you'll probably see a little bit higher SG&A relative to revenue. But the range for us is still in that 3.5% to 4% range on SG&A. And back to what Rich said, over time, we do find ways of offsetting that.

Ruplu Bhattacharya -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

OK. Thanks for the details there. Appreciate it. Maybe for the last one, Rich, if I can ask you at a higher level question.

So, investors are concerned about the possibility of a recession in the U.S. or a slowdown in Europe. Have you seen any slowdown anywhere in any region? And can you talk about your visibility? Has it improved any since 90 days ago? And if you can also talk about the backlog, how that is trending and your expectations for that for the rest of the year? Thank you.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So, here's what we see. We take it from the global channel guide, which is the most up-to-date information that we see, the IDCs and context information of the world. And if you go and you take a look at those publications, what you'll find out is that the Americas market is more robust, if you will, than the European market.

You know, read the Americas market to have been, over the recent past, call it some higher single digit, mid to high single digit. And then Europe actually has been bumping around flat overall. So, I think you could speculate to see you're seeing the impacts of some of the geopolitical issues in Europe potentially. Then Asia Pacific, which we don't have up-to-date information on, but our speculation would be sort of a mid-single-digit, best-guess, market right now.

So, you know, that's sort of the backdrop of sort of the growth rates that we see in sort of the segment that we operate in. When we think about, you know, your next question, looking forward, we do feel as if there is good, robust demand. We feel pretty good about our backlog. The backlog is marginally down sequentially in total.

But, you know, that was sort of our view as to how things would play out. And as we move forward, my crystal ball would say that as we move through time, hopefully, we'll see it move marginally down each quarter moving forward. And then, you know, we basically create our commitments here from a bottoms-up perspective where we hear from each region with a particular emphasis on the coming quarter and then a view for the remainder of the year. And that really informs, you know, our guidance, if you will.

So, that's the process that we go through, Ruplu.

Ruplu Bhattacharya -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jim Suva from Citigroup. Your line is open.

Jim Suva -- Citi -- Analyst

Thank you, and good morning. I had a question. You mentioned Hyperscaler was down due to difficult comps, and I think you said as expected. Can you remind us, since we're now approaching the time period of kind of starting to lap the integration that you had with TD and SYNNEX, as we look ahead for the next quarter or two, are those difficult year-over-year comps for Hyperscaler behind us? And what are you kind of seeing for the demand in your Hyve business?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

So, Jim, first of all, good morning. Thanks for the question. You might recall in previous broadcast, we always talk about Hyve being a lumpy business. We stage, we then release, and stage and release.

We find ourselves into cycles like that. And we are bullish and confident with the hyperscale sort of segment over time. The market data would state that that category, you know, has double-digit growth rates, and we firmly believe, you know, that that's the case in sort of the sustaining time. I would tell you that, you know, when you think about Q2 and then going into Q3 and then potentially Q4, the business in total has the benefit of some easier compares.

And then I would say that that segment as well sort of falls into that category. So, you know, we have 1H for the entire business in that category that was pretty robust in FY '21. And then it sort of slowed in the back half of the second half of the FY '21. And so, yes, the compares get easier for both the total and that segment.

Jim Suva -- Citi -- Analyst

And then my follow-up question is on the inventory. Of course, you had to build this quarter than you mentioned that you're going to be working it down some for the August quarter. How do we bridge that versus the comments of supply chain challenges still existing today? Because if the supply chain challenges still exist today, you'd think inventory would be flattish or maybe it's seasonal because, otherwise, people will say there's some weakening of demand for your backlog there.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I'm going to start, and then I'm going to turn it over to Marshall. But by starting, I want to make sure everybody's focused on the working capital improvements that we had seen in the quarter. They have been or are substantial, you know, from my point of view. Jim, when we -- if I hearken back to an earlier comment that I had, I said as we sort of continue to march through the supply constrained environment, we're comfortable with our working capital model that we had taken everybody through at investor day.

But until sort of we get stability in the supply chain, you know, we're going to have some shorts and longs, if you will. It's the proverbial golden screw discussion in the, you know, core of distribution that has you hanging on, especially within the advanced solutions segment to inventory longer than you normally would. And then I think when we think about the hyperscale business, the ebb and flow of, you know, getting a bit behind on scheduled deployments and then getting back on schedule, you know, based on many factors associated with the pandemic sort of caused a bit of a continuity issue. But as I said, in the long term, you know, once we sort of get through all these supply things, they'll work themselves out, and we'll have -- we believe we'll have really good stability as it relates to sort of our working capital profile.

Marshall, I don't know if you have anything to add to that.

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

No, well said.

Jim Suva -- Citi -- Analyst

Great. Thanks so much for the details. It's appreciated.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Thank you, Jim.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Adam Tindle from Raymond James. Your line is open.

Adam Tindle -- Raymond James -- Analyst

OK, thanks. Good morning. Rich, you knew I would ask about working capital if you got to me, but maybe I'll save that for my second question. On synergies, you talked about tracking ahead.

Would you characterize that as moving faster on your existing roadmap? Or are you finding new areas of synergy where the total synergy number may end up being higher? And I'm asking because you have that track record of overachieving on your slide. I'm just wondering if the total synergy number is maybe even tracking higher. And if you could talk about the composition of the remaining synergy, that would be helpful.

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Adam, thanks for the question. This is Marshall. So we're still committed to the 200 million as we enter into fiscal '23. And as in our prepared remarks, we're at 130 forecasted for the first year.

No new elements to that, just moving quicker than we had expected throughout it. And I would just say, if you think about the way that, that synergy of 130 breaks down, it's roughly 60% SG&A, and the rest is below the line in taxes and interest.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

And then as it relates to additional synergies, you know, typically, you put a project plan to better -- together, you go and you get myopically focused on executing that project plan. You know, we're kind of keeping our head down to make sure we get that accomplished. And then subsequent to that, you know, I'm sure other opportunities will present themselves. We just don't have, you know, a quantitative point of view as to what that might be.

Adam Tindle -- Raymond James -- Analyst

OK. Makes sense. And maybe just as a follow-up, Marshall, I'll take the working capital question all the way up to ROIC instead. I realize you've reported a trailing four-quarter metric, but it's just under 13%.

And the year-ago period was just over 21%. Maybe if you could talk about your view of where pro forma ROIC should ultimately go. Do you think you can get back into the 20s? The key drivers to that and timing to get there would be helpful.

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks for the question, Adam. In our pro forma, pre-merger expectation, we thought that ROIC on an adjusted basis would land somewhere around 11%. As we continue to march through and integrate the companies and get the full digestion of debt and equity, you'll see that 12.5% lands somewhere around that 11%. Adam, again, that's a forecast for the full year.

And then from there, we believe, given all the things we do in terms of capital allocation and reinvesting back in the business and acquisitions and other opportunities, we should see that step back up. And, Adam, you've heard us say this in the past, we always achieved to have a 300 to 400 basis point ROIC above our weighted average cost of capital. That continues to be the goal that we have in front of us.

Adam Tindle -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Vincent Colicchio from Barrington Research. Your line is open.

Vincent Colicchio -- Barrington Research -- Analyst

Nice quarter, guys. Rich, I'm curious. Are you seeing a general increase in turnover and/or stabilization? And what does turnover look like for your top 100 leadership executives?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yes, so if I talk about turnover, it clearly is elevated. To be candid with you, I'm really surprised relative to how successful we've been in our recruiting efforts as well. So, you know, I would say that we're, you know, a little bit higher than normal but very manageable. As it relates to our top 100, we've been very stable.

There have been no surprises that I'm aware of. And we, you know, have managed team closely and stayed close to them, especially through the sort of the merger phase. I mean there's an incremental workload that is quite substantial. So, we're asking people to do a lot more than the norm.

But, you know, I feel as if we've got really good stability in our top 100.

Vincent Colicchio -- Barrington Research -- Analyst

And three quarters into the integration, client losses tied to diversification. Is that sort of in line with your expectations? Is it a meaningful number?

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Good question, Vince. This is Marshall. It's better than expected. As you know, we have a highly complementary vendor line card and same with the customer base.

If we think about the integrations we've done so far and the commentary Rich has had about the Canadian CIS migration, it's gone very smoothly with very little disruption. We expect the same thing to be the case for the U.S. migration. So, very pleased with the overall result and significant upside, as we've mentioned in previous conversations, around cross-sell once we get onto one platform.

Vincent Colicchio -- Barrington Research -- Analyst

OK. That's it for me. Nice quarter. Thank you.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Housum from Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Reserach -- Analyst

Good morning, guys. Hey, Rich, when you were in the investor day, you talked quite a bit about TD SYNNEX migrating toward more solutions for your customers and netted down revenue. Perhaps talk about progress made over the quarter and, you know, the demand for that that you saw this quarter.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So if I could, during the investor day, we talk about high-growth technologies. And just to give everybody sort of an insight there, we're talking about hybrid cloud and security, analytics and IoT, hyperscale infrastructure. Even within the, you know, endpoint space, AR/VR is within there as well.

We had a -- we have an expectation of sort of an elevated growth rate, if you will, for that category. The core distribution piece of that clearly has been on track to deliver, if you will, that elevated growth rate. We talked about Hyve, you know, being a little bit lumpy, so we think about Hyve having that elevated growth rate annualized. So we're feeling really good, Keith, about those high-growth technologies and kind of where we're at with, you know, more investment, if you will, to come to make sure that we're bringing -- continue to bring incremental value to that customer set.

As it relates to the netting, you know, you get into those high-growth technologies using cloud as an example. You know, there is -- that category in particular, is one which gets netted. And, you know, as that becomes a bigger piece of the pie, there's a larger netting that. Maybe, Marshall, you want to comment.

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Yes, you're right. So, we always try to reference gross billings when we think about the high-growth technology sections, and we'll do that going forward. But early on, two quarters in, relative to our investor day profiles and what we thought, we're very much in line with that.

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Reserach -- Analyst

Got it. Appreciate it. In terms of your guidance for some puts and takes on what would take for, I guess, to kind of at the lower end of your guidance in terms of revenue? And what will it take to come to the higher end of your guidance? So, with, you know, the big swing item in your minds, I mean, what would take to actually be at the top of your guidance?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

So, I think, you know, I'll start, then maybe Marshall can discuss it and maybe statement of the obvious. But if, in fact, we see a sudden downturn of demand based on the recessionary pressures that would have us find ourselves probably at the low end of our guidance. To get to the high end of the guidance, what would it take it? You know, one thing comes to mind, right, is that is a significant release of supply to be able to sell through a bigger portion of the backlog. And, you know, obviously, you think about demand, but if demand is constrained by adding to the -- incremental demand is constrained by adding to the backlog, then that would be a tougher putt.

But I think a bigger release of supply would be helpful to get us to the higher end.

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Reserach -- Analyst

And we don't see anything likely this quarter, do we?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

You know. It's hard to predict. I think I was talking earlier about the evolution of, you know, the PC stuff being at the front end of the pandemic demand wise and then the advanced solutions stuff being higher demand. I think Matt had commented earlier, I think, in his insight that, you know, our ask is the PC stuff becoming a bit more stable.

It kind of feels like it is. So, you know, never say never, but we have a pretty tight relationship with most of our suppliers. And we, really, once we hear from the regions, they actually, if you will, cross track with regard to our vendors to make sure that we're supply supported. And in fact, that would be the -- our range currently would be our best call.

But if there are pleasant surprises that would come, they would be just that pleasant surprises.

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Reserach -- Analyst

Great. Thanks. Appreciate it.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ananda Baruah from Loop Capital. Your line is open.

Ananda Baruah -- Loop Capital Markets -- Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I guess I have two, if I could. Rich, I don't think I heard you in any of your answers give what your consumer exposure is.

So, I'd love that. And if you did, I apologize for the repeat questions.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So, if you take a look at the charts that we had included in the pack, we had a special emphasis or special insight, if you will. So, you know, if you think about the consumer piece, sort of stand-alone, you could think about it as being a sort of mid-single-digit percentage of our total overall portfolio.

Ananda Baruah -- Loop Capital Markets -- Analyst

So, it's really small at this point.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Well, yes, I mean it's mid-single digits. So, you know, I think that the whole PC category, if it calibrates the pie, it's pretty well calibrated to the reality. So, you know, you can think of the whole PC category being 20%-ish. And then the consumer piece being a percent of that, which gets us to 5% of growth.

Ananda Baruah -- Loop Capital Markets -- Analyst

Got it. And what about some of the legacy stuff for each company? Yes, legacy Tech Data had some handset exposure primarily in Europe, and legacy SYNNEX had some meaningful consumer exposure, retail exposure in North America. Is that -- are those both de minimis at this point? And so, you know, really the PC -- the retail -- sorry, so really the consumer exposure is on the PC side at this point?

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Ananda, this is Marshall. Yeah, we still have legacy SYNNEX, New Age Electronics, great business performing well. And on the legacy Tech Data side, we've got, you call it, consumer-related mobility in Europe.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Right. And that's performing consistent with expectation as well.

Ananda Baruah -- Loop Capital Markets -- Analyst

That's helpful, guys. And any sense, Rich, if we see, or Marshall, if we stack those, you know, to the PC consumer, like where that would sort of land for the company kind of what consumer exposure would be overall as a percentage of revenue?

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

So, again -- so, you're asking if you were to have included mobility within the PC category, what would that be? I don't have the number right in front of me, but I wouldn't even comment. But, you know, I wouldn't think it would be super material.

Ananda Baruah -- Loop Capital Markets -- Analyst

Cool. Cool. That's helpful. And then I guess sort of, Rich, your comments about second half '22, good IT spending environment.

What -- like what do you guys see? I guess what I'd love is to get some context, kind of see things like what do you guys see and maybe your interpretation, kind of the overall theme of customer behavior is right now, given, you know, kind of macro indicators, everybody's, you know, sort of watching the same macro indicators. It seems like commercial spending has been very well intact, at the same time -- and Marshall, you're actually one of the people who's watching these macro indicators, you know, as the CFO of SYNNEX. And so, what do you guys think -- what are you experiencing, I guess, is the overarching theme from your customers. You have this one situation where commercial demand is clearly very well intact.

You know, at the same time, you know, kind of the macro indicators are what they are. And your conclusion is, you know, solid IT spending in the second half of the year. So, I just would love any context there to try to get a sense of what it is you think your customers are experiencing as you guys interpret it.

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so maybe I'll go first. I hate to be a little bit repetitive here, but we see a really strong infrastructure. You know, the advanced solutions category, you know, that area continues to, I think, be most challenged as it relates to supply and backlog, and the PCs are moderating with a particular emphasis of the consumer segment being sort of weaker. We see that -- we sort of articulated that theme when we started the year.

We said the first half, we thought that there would be good demand around PCs, and the AS segment would begin to, if you will, accelerate a bit. And then in the back half, we'd see more moderation in PCs and that we'd have solid demands around the AS category. And I think that's what we see playing out. And the only other thing that I would offer is the high-growth technologies of cloud, analytics and IoT, security, and hyperscale as a basket.

Those growth rates are strong, and they're becoming more and more meaningful part of our business as we move through time. So, you know, from an end user demand perspective, certainly the high-growth technologies, the advanced solutions project-based business and then PC moderation.

Ananda Baruah -- Loop Capital Markets -- Analyst

Great. That's super helpful. All right. Thank you, guys.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Duration: 0 minutes

Call participants:

Liz Morali -- Head of Investor Relations

Rich Hume -- Chief Executive Officer

Marshall Witt -- Chief Financial Officer

Matt Sheerin -- Stifel Financial Corp. -- Analyst

Ruplu Bhattacharya -- Bank of America Merrill Lynch -- Analyst

Jim Suva -- Citi -- Analyst

Adam Tindle -- Raymond James -- Analyst

Vincent Colicchio -- Barrington Research -- Analyst

Keith Housum -- Northcoast Reserach -- Analyst

Ananda Baruah -- Loop Capital Markets -- Analyst

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